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Naomi1
#1 Posted : Thursday, September 27, 2012 6:38:50 PM Quote
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I think the Mtx/Plaquenil combination is working on my joints. I still get pain and mini flare ups and weakness etc but on the whole they are much better. What about the fatigue though? It doesn't seem to be letting up at all. Is this something i just have to put up with now? Has anyone found any drugs that have tackled it? I rest lots and eat well so don't think it's my lifestyle. I work 3 days a week, having gone down from full time. I suffer from crippling fatigue and I hate it. I had to let a friend down today as I just needed to go back to bed rather than meet up as planned. I slept for 3 1/2 hours this afternoon and still feel exhausted. I'll face up to the fact that this is permanent if I have to....like so many other RA losses that I grieve, but if other people have any ideas on how to tackle it then please tell me. Thanks from Naomi, X
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#2 Posted : Thursday, September 27, 2012 6:49:42 PM Quote
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Oh Naomi-I so understand you. Fatigue is horrendous. A lot of people seem to be able to manage their fatigue by pacing themselves but as I work I really can't do that. I know of nothing we can take to help with it. I'm like you I fall asleep as soon as I get home from work and very rarely go out in an evening because I'm just too darn tired.
I know people at work think I'm a party pooper.
I think we just have to try and plan that when we have something extra to do then we mustn't do the housework that day, or go shopping etc. and try and save our energy for doiing that special thing.
YES I'VE CHANGED, PAIN DOES THAT TO PEOPLE.
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#3 Posted : Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:05:57 PM Quote
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Yes Naomi I can sympathise with the fatigue. Humira has been so good for me and more or less given me back my life but I still get the fatigue.
I'm quite good at pacing myself because I don't go out to work, but anything out of the ordinary and I suffer the next day or two.
Then of course there are the days when the fatigue is just overwhelming, without even having stretched myself. These days are fewer since I've been on humira but I still get them.
Of all the pills we have to take you would think there would be one for fatigue!

Love Doreen xx
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#4 Posted : Friday, September 28, 2012 8:36:05 AM Quote
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Hi Naomi - so sorry to hear that the fatigue is still so bad - but it's good news that the meds are finally getting the RA under control. Keep hoping that things will improve - it does take time, the OT told me it can take up to 12 months before it's stable, and it sounds as if the meds have only recently started to have a significant impact for you. And of course there are still other options like the biologics if the current mix really doesn't improve things, so do keep optimistic and pamper yourself - I've found that having my nails done works wonders for me - I've always had ghastly nails but now I go to the nail bar every few weeks and have them done professionally and now everytime I look at my hands I just see gorgeous colour and elegant fingertips and it somehow cheers me up. I would never have discovered this without the RA forcing me to look at myself in a new way!!!!!!!

Hope you're feeling brighter today - Sylvia xxx
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#5 Posted : Friday, September 28, 2012 9:16:28 AM Quote
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hi naomi, i hate to say but i dont think there is any thing for our fatigue,i am a really sad case too i dont go out at night much,i have done in the past scared myself as didnt realise how tired i would get and had to drive home, next day could hardly get up,i have learned the pacing thing,took forever,but still get so tired,i have one friend who tries to understand the why i cant do all the normall things with her,her mother had ra so she has a bit of insight,i am 55 not old and not young an inbetweenie but i have friends in their 70+ who can go on for ever,i hate it when people say "oh come on your only 55"very annoying,because our problems are not visible they dont see them,sorry but im not helping am i,just rest up and go at your own speed,i catch up with what i have recorded from tv or skype my sister for a moan, when i get the snoozies,must say the dog hates as he gets walked by my kids and they dont let him dawddle,take care,dorothy.
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#6 Posted : Friday, September 28, 2012 4:26:31 PM Quote
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Smile hello everyone.
Fatique......sometimes I'm ok and have energy to do things, then feel shattered.
This morning I went to the supermarket, came back had soup and sat on the sofa shattered!

So frustrating, have been out in the garden doing weeding earlier in the week....can't kneel down, bend over to reach. After I while I crashed out on my camping chair in the garden!

Wouldn't it be great for someone to help in the fatique department.

Sylvia
I like the sound of your nail pamper treat!

My treat is having my hair done! Its great to hear the young ladies in the hairdressers chattering about what they get up to at the weekend and listening to their take on things without a care in the world.
Having my hair coloured and straightned picks me up.

It reminds me, my husband bought me a bath therme spa pamper package for my birthday I shall have to use.

Look after yourselves
Jane
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Naomi1
#7 Posted : Friday, September 28, 2012 8:21:06 PM Quote
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I have a feeling I'm just going to have to put up with the fatigue forever. Some days are better than others and pacing helps somewhat. Most people just do not understand how debilitating it can be. Only those that suffer the same fate REALLY understand. I have some friends, a couple, who come to stay a couple of times a year. The male has MS and he gets the same kind of fatigue as me and they both completely understand...so when I say I must go to bed at 9.30 they don't get offended. I have a very good friend who tries her best to understand, and bless her for it. She never judges me on it and believes me when I tell her about how the fatigue affects me. My partner Nick is the same, thank goodness. Other people just DO NOT get it. Even when I've explained about it they treat me like a party pooper and get hurt and offended if I need to cancel dates. They just do not realise that fatigue can be so debilitating and that if I push myself too far I will pay for it in feeling so tired that I feel really ill. They make judgements and say things like if I can manage this at 60, or my mother can travel all day at 70 (or whatever) then you can certainly do it in your forties. Just another part of the battle of having RA I suppose. Ah well.......never mind. I'll deal with this and keep it in perspective as I have bigger battles to fight like staying in work and coping with pain etc. Thanks for your replies everyone. It helps to know that I'm not alone with this. Naomi, X
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#8 Posted : Friday, September 28, 2012 10:30:39 PM Quote
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Hi Naomi,

A couple of things to add about pacing and having a look at the traffic light method again....

Also.
Please get your vit d levels checked along with iron levels.
I take vit d pills each week now as mine was so low

If you check out 'sleep hygiene' on google some good ideas on there.

Much love

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Naomi1
#9 Posted : Friday, September 28, 2012 10:54:43 PM Quote
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Thanks Jenni. What's the traffic light method? I do have my iron levels checked as part of the Mtx monitoring but I'll ask about Vitamin D when I see the consultant. X
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#10 Posted : Friday, September 28, 2012 11:05:07 PM Quote
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Hi naomi

There a thread on this on newly diagnosed I've brought to the top for youSmile
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Rebecca D
#11 Posted : Saturday, September 29, 2012 10:42:26 AM Quote
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Hi Naomi

I understand your fatigue, some days for me the overwhelming fatigue can be worse to cope with than the pain and because people can not see it they don't really understand or have any empathy. It's also so difficult to manage, you are right to take naps when you need them and to pace yourself really slowly...

Do you wake up alot in the night? Lack of quality sleep can really make you suffer the next day. Also as Jenni says make sure you are not anaemic, my hemoglobin levels are really low at the moment which makes the fatigue even worse. Also extreme fatigue can be a side effect of the drugs especially methotrexate.

My rheumy always advises that the fatigue will improve as the inflammation improves, having inflamed joints takes alot of energy out of the body.

The only thing I have found that helps the fatigue is a course of B-Vitamins, they are supposed to help regulate the body's level of energy but check with your GP first if they can be taken with methotrexate.

Love
Rebecca
zena_mary
#12 Posted : Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:02:59 AM Quote
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Hi Naomi and all.
Just caught up with this thread.Fatigue seems to be such a big problem for most of us with R.A.
I am retired but imagine it must be extremely difficult to manage the fatigue with work.
I cannot really add any more to the advice that you have been given, only to say not to give up hope and that things can still improve.
It has taken three years to get my last severe flare under control during which time I could and would drop off to sleep anywhere at any time. I was afraid to drive after once finding myself dropping off at traffic lights! I had all but given up hope that things could improve but at last I am feeling that I can tackle life better, be it all at my own slow pace but I do feel much less tired. Pacing oneself has to be the best answer, but how to manage this with work must be so hard. Perhaps your disease is not quite as well managed as you feel, Keep mentioning it to your team who need to take it very seriously because it is so debilitating.
Best wishes Zena. xx
Naomi1
#13 Posted : Saturday, September 29, 2012 10:54:25 PM Quote
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Thanks everyone. Really useful advice. I love being able to come here and pick your brains. it really is a Godsend.
Dorothy-W
#14 Posted : Monday, October 01, 2012 9:20:14 AM Quote
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naomi just a silly note for you, i went to the theatre with some girlfriends and i really wanted to see the show,it was a 7.30pm and yes i fell asleep and missed most of it,dont know how as it was a very loud misical and i got such a ribbing from the girls,i had to drive home and its only a 3min drive but it felt like days,so there it is gone from party animal to wee willy winkie LOL ,i have afternoon shows coming up and now found out 2 evenings so a nap before may be in order Huh dorothy
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